Heirlooms and JP: A Random Complaint

It has been just shy of a month since the release of Cataclysm, and I have already reached that stage where Justice Points are now completely meaningless on my current main, Belgrave.  I’ve run up an additional character to 85, my shaman, and he is nearing the point of being fully heroic geared as well.  So as a result, rather than race changing my druid Loamis, I rerolled a brand new baby worgen Belgarou.

Papa Needs his Medicine

F5A1205B808F4FE5C0DC80CDBF5638EF I am a fairly lazy person, so if there is a way to level a character faster without the hassle of constantly swapping gear then by all means I am going to do it that way.  So obviously my first thought was… grab some heirlooms.  I had a set of shoulders, chest, and trinket over on my 70 dwarf rogue, so I stripped them off for the time being. 

Being melee centric, the most important heirloom to me has always been the weapon.  Always having a weapon with the stats of a blue at your level is the most game changing item you can get for a character.  While a feral druid doesn’t rely on their weapon nearly as much as traditional melee, it was still something I definitely wanted to lock down.  Even in the brand new Worgen starter zone, and repopulated night elf zones the starter weapons have generally been crap.  So I quickly browsed out to wowhead to find out how many of those JP daddy warbucks (Belgrave), would have to spend on the new member of the tribe.

OMGWTFLOL

wtf Yeah, I know that is not the most intelligible heading but that is exactly what I felt.  I really had not paid attention to heirloom prices since the swap from a tier based token economy to the new point based one.  Needless to say I was completely shocked at the insane price gouging going on to get your alts some gear.  Primarily when contrasted with the price of heroic level blues (346) it is just truly insane.  Let me give you some examples of the prices.

Heroic Level Blues (346)

  • Offhand Item / Shield – 950 JP
  • Neck – 1250 JP
  • Gloves – 1650 JP
  • Belt – 1650 JP
  • Shoulders – 1650 JP
  • Chest – 2200 JP
  • Helm – 2200 JP
  • Legs – 2200 JP

Heirloom Items (1-80 Range)

  • Shoulders – 2175 JP
  • Chest – 2175 JP
  • One Handed Weapons – 2175 JP
  • Trinket – 2725 JP
  • Two Handed Weapon – 3500 JP

Seeing the disconnect? I think you do.  The cheapest heirlooms (that cap out at level 80 mind you) are just 25 JP cheaper than the most expensive heroic level blues.  So we are supposed to be paying way more per item than we pay for the gear that allows our characters to raid?  I realize, that I said at the beginning of this post that my justice points are meaningless at this point, and as one of the most geared tanks in my guild I will be running the hell out of instances for a long long while to assist in gearing everyone else.

However, not everyone will be having that dilemma.  We have a good number of players in our guild that are not near as focused on gearing up a “main” first, and as a result spend a good deal of time playing around on lower level alts.  While I am not expecting blizzard to hand us heirlooms in a silver envelope in the mailbox, I just think the pricing currently is way out of line.

Fear for the Future

47746-bigthumbnail One of the things I really enjoyed during the wrath era is the fact that as the life span of the expansion extended, it became easier to catch players up enough to be useful in raids.  With a few weeks worth of work, you could take a green level 80 and get them enough gear to be able to survive in Icecrown.  I’ve enjoyed the fact that upgrades so far have been hard to come by, and require actual work to get, however I am starting to feel the echo of burning crusade.

During the burning crusade era, with the various gating mechanics (attunements), and difficulty to gear up, it became very difficult to replace vacancies in your raid.  We for example are a group of mostly 30 somethings, with families, and jobs, and real life that sometimes intervenes in our game time.  As a result sometimes a player has to leave the active raid through no real fault of their own. 

During the Burning Crusade era, once we moved past tier 4 content, this was a massive tragedy as it meant we either had to step back and spend time running lower level raid content or try and steal a member of another raid that was already at our gear level.  Due to these problems, the raid climate on my server was very back biting and vicious.  Every raid leader was forced to steal from others to survive and keep the home fires burning.  Wrath thankfully made it much easier to find a player with a good attitude, but lacking gear and catch them up enough to start contributing to the whole.

Enough Beating Around the Bush

coyote-bush1 My big fear is that as blizzard decommissions the 359 gear, and moves on to the next tier that based on the current heroic blue prices, the justice point cost will be astronomically high.  We will be right back to Burning Crusade, an expansion where I ran Karazhan every Sunday for literally 2 years just to get players enough gear to begin raiding.  The gearing grind is fun to do once, but not much fun when you have to keep dragging your friends through it.  I came out of the Burning Crusade era very bitter about all the things I had to do on a regular basis just to keep raiding functional.

I Really Hope Blizzard Knows What They are Doing

3 thoughts on “Heirlooms and JP: A Random Complaint”

  1. I have to say that, I have the same concerns with gearing up people once the next tier of progression is released. I hope that Blizzard learned their lesson with BC though. It would be stupid and poor business to go back to that design.

    As for the Heirloom items. The point cost is one of the reason that I will only ever buy them from the champion vendor in the Argent Tournament.

  2. “Seeing the disconnect? I think you do.”

    Actuallies, I don’t. Heirlooms is always cost roughlies the same as 2nd tier items. In 3.3, it were 30 emblems fer yer T9 shoulders, or 40 fer yer heirloom shoulders. If’n ya don’t wants ta spend so many JPs on yer alts, the Argent Tournament is still running in Northrend.

    As far as prices when T12 comes out, why are you thinking Blizz will do anythings other than sell 359 gear fer what 346 gear costs today? And why would you be havings ta be draggin’ yer friends through heroics? By that time puggin’ will be way easier than now, and they can gear theyselves with the DF.

    • Honestly we don’t have a good base of comparrison to what they will do. 359 gear costs fewer Valor Points than the 346 gear costs in Justice Point. In the past when new tiers came out, the old items retained their original cost in the original currency. Considering the conversion rate downward between the various tiers of badges made the item cost stay the same.

      Blizzard won’t be able to simply make the 359 gear cost their current price in justice points, making epics cheaper than blues? As the leader of a large guild, I am gonna end up tanking heroics for many many people long past they are of any use for me. It’s just the right thing to do.

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