AggroChat #467 – Bombardier Falcon

Featuring: Ammosart, Ashgar, Belghast, Grace, Kodra, Tamrielo, and Thalen

Hey Folks! This week we have a sick Bel that is trying to hold on during the show and a very long-distance Kodra, but it all works out in the end.  We start off with some discussion about Marvel reprinting the Godzilla comic run that has been out of print for decades.  From there Bel and Grace talk a bit about some recent experiences with Enshrouded and playing it multiplayer.  Bel also talks a bit about the endgame and its strengths and weaknesses.  From there we talk quite a bit about Last Epoch and the reveal of the Falconer and the upcoming 1.0 release.  We discuss our plans for the first “cycle” and how we seem to all be favoring the magic find faction. Lastly, we get into a discussion about how the spoiler-averse culture that we find ourselves in makes it very hard to discuss narrative games.

Topics Discussed:

  • Godzilla Marvel Comic
  • Enshrouded
    • Some Multiplayer Gameplay
    • Discussing the strengths and weaknesses
  • Last Epoch
    • Falconer Reveal
    • Looking forward to 1.0
  • Spoiler Aversion
    • How it is hard to discuss narrative games

Hugged to Death

Good Morning Friends! Yesterday was the launch of Last Epoch Multiplayer patch 0.9 and it was most certainly interesting. Shocking to no one that has ever experienced an MMO launch… there were problems. I attempted to create a character around noon when the servers first went online and encountered a litany of errors and gave up. Last night around 4 pm when I was attempting to log in, I kept encountering the above situation where it would try and load the character and then fail out with an error of “[LE-61] Failed to Matchmake” but have to hit some sort of time out before it returned me to the character select screen to try again. Around 5:30 my time, things had calmed down enough that I was actually able to log into the game as was my good friend Ace. From there we experienced a pretty hilarious night of weird bugs until I reached a point where I could no longer interact with NPCs… and we had to call it a night.

The above video is one that I snagged from this post on Reddit and uploaded to YouTube so that I could embed it. Unfortunately, it was uploaded directly to Reddit so please know I am not attempting to take credit for it. I absolutely encountered this same bug several times yesterday, and in truth, it seemed to be happening quite a bit for various skills. For example, if I used Lunge without a target, it would lock me in the movement animation while seemingly it waited for the command to time out. When I got shield charge, I was able to charge through walls and skip sections of the map…. because I am guessing my client, Ace’s client, and the server all had a disagreement on where exactly I was heading and where I successfully managed to go. The funniest thing though was when I would shield charge… and it would go super slow for a few seconds and then rapidly warp me to the final destination of the ability. When things got really bad towards the end of my session I started rubberbanding back to near Ace’s location because it was as though the server lost track of me.

Please note this is not me complaining, this is me regaling you with the experience we had last night. Ace and I were on discord laughing the entire time like we were drunk with joy. The folks I feel bad about though are the team over at Eleventh Hour Games. I am certain they did not get any sleep last night… most specifically MoxJet aka Judd (Mox) on Discord. He was in the chat when I disappeared last night and was back up this morning around 6 am, still answering questions… still being chill, responsive, and helpful. I remember when we were attempting to log in yesterday I was watching the chat for any signs of updates, and the chat was thrown into slow mode allowing one new message from each user every 5 minutes. Even then being throttled like it was… it was scrolling by faster than I could read it. I mean all multiplayer launches are at least somewhat traumatic, but I feel for the late nights the team is going to have over the coming days.

Last Epoch is legitimately overwhelmed by new players at the moment. If you look at the steam charts, as of writing this post Last Epoch is sitting in the 8th spot for top-selling games in the US and 12th Globally. Notice that Steam indicates that it is new to the list, which I believe means it has not appeared before on the top 100 list at all. This game went from a very niche title to being thrust into the mainstream literally overnight. I bought into the game in 2018 when it was a wildly different experience, and over time it has shifted from something I honestly did not enjoy much to being a legitimate contender for the Diablo/Path Of Exile throne. This is absolutely benefitting from the hype surrounding Path of Exile having a phenomenal Sanctum league, and Diablo IV waiting in the wings… but not quite ready for launch. It is probably even widely benefitted from Diablo II getting a remastered edition that has had its own traction among classic ARPG players. So while this is awesome for the future of Eleventh Hour Games as a company… it is going to be a bit of a rocky ride in the interim for that team.

For the moment since I spent so much time playing Necromancer in testing, I decided to try out a Sentinel build. This looked to be the sort of Righteous Fire gameplay I enjoy where you are nigh unkillable and just AOE everything around you to death. You can see the .85 build here on Last Epoch Tools, which I am adapting to fit .9, and for the most part, there are not significant enough differences to really cause challenges. I also plan on playing around with a Ritualist and Acolyte like I did in testing and Rogue is just stupid fun and arrives at a point of power way earlier than the other classes. I ran a bunch of things up on the test realm and I plan on doing the same over the coming weeks in online play. The game keeps your offline and online characters separate similar to how Wolcen did, so you have to make a choice of playing with friends or not ever playing with friends. I wish we could have at least played characters offline and then shifted to online play, but I get why they wanted to keep online play somewhat sacred.

Sadly I have no screenshots of me playing with Ace last night because quite honestly we were laughing too hard for me to think to take screenshots. We managed to run a few characters up to around level 17, and I plan on more or less holding my Sentinel where it is currently and resuming play together tonight. At first, we thought maybe there was some catch-up experience going on, but I think they just buffed the XP rates across the board whether or not you were grouped. The main thing we noticed is it felt like we were getting way more “Blue” and “Yellow” monsters than we would in a non-multiplayer map. The chat message indicates that the monster’s health is buffed but I think the changes maybe go deeper than that. It felt good to play with friends and did not feel like we were just stomping things without any challenge. I even died last night because I just did not get out of the bad fast enough. It was a heck of a lot of fun and I am hoping the servers calm down or stabilize as the team adds more resources.

I did not get anything that was necessarily set defining, and I probably traded more good items to Ace than I kept because I ended up getting a lot of +minion items on a build that does not care in the least about that. I did get Snowblind which is a somewhat universally good leveling item. Sadly I am not really going into elemental attacks at all, but maybe I will find some +cold weapons to make this do some work for me. I am also using Avarice Gloves which have synergy with elemental attacks. If I can lean in that direction a bit, those items should help me out a little bit. I had fun though and that is ultimately the real judge of a game launch. I think the Eleventh Hour Games team has a great product on their hands, and hopefully, they have the capital required to ramp up enough to stem the bleeding. They definitely have some work ahead of them because the testing did not hammer the servers anywhere near what happened last night. However, I think they are in a good place to move forward because it was at least playable.

Did you play Last Epoch last night? What were your experiences? Drop me a line below.

AggroChat #422 – Excuse to Kill Dinosaurs

Featuring: Ammosart, Ashgar, Belghast, Grace, Kodra, Tamrielo, and Thalen

Hey Folks! This week Bel has been playing Last Epoch quite a bit of late and has roped both Grace and Tam into it.  We talk a bit about how the game has improved over time and how it compares to Diablo III and Path of Exile.  From there Thalen and Tam talk a bit about their further experiences with Lord of the Rings Online.  Kodra talks about his adventures in watching a live stage production of Bluey, and we talk a bit about the show in general.  Tam shares his thoughts on Hi-Fi Rush and dives into a topic about the oddities of Steam Deck Compatibility.

Topics Discussed:

  • Last Epoch
    • Multiplayer Beta
    • Class Design
    • Comparisons with other ARPGs
  • Lord of the Rings Online
  • Bluey Big Play
    • The show in general
  • Hi-Fi Rush
  • Steam Deck Incompatibilities

Deterministic Crafting

Good Morning Friends! I’ve now spent more time with Last Epoch and leveled a character further than I had managed previously. Last night I dinged level 50, and am an undetermined amount of progress into the story. I kinda like how Path of Exile has nice clean points of demarcation between content blocks, but Last Epoch is this whole weird timey-wimey chrono-trigger-esc mess of timelines. I’ve been playing the Necromancer and it is pure nonsense. Right now if I am summoning the maximum number of critters following me and doing my bidding I have:

  • 2 – Bone Golems
  • 5 – Skeletal Warriors
  • 3 – Skeletal Mages
  • 6 – Exploding Zombies
  • 3 – Skeletal Vanguard
  • 2 – Wraiths

So at full compliment… which I admittedly only really hit regularly when I am in a boss fight… I am roaming around with Twenty-One Horrible Children. This is what I want in a Necromancer class, just a veritable army of dead friends doing my work for me. Admittedly that is ALL I do… because I effectively keep summoning Exploding Zombies in lieu of casting a fireball or something of the sort. Each time one of my pets die, including my exploding zombies that are designed to die… I have a 10% chance of summoning a Skeletal Vanguard. So while the rest of my pets I can summon up before I get into battle, those I need to effectively get through combat. I guess technically I could probably sit there summoning Exploding Zombies until I procced all three of them.

There are a lot of things that I really like about the game and probably the biggest one of those is the crafting system. Coming from Path of Exile, I think I have had my fill of “crafting gamba” and hate how you have to game that system in order to get what you actually want from it… while at the same time always being on the very edge of “bricking” your item in the process. In Last Epoch, the “random” element is pushed to finding the crafting shards in the wild, but once you have one it is always going to apply a predictable effect to an item. Sure this sucks a bit when you really need Minion Damage on an item and you have not found any Minion Damage shards, but at least you have a fixed item that you need to get as a drop. There are items that let you shatter an item that has a stat you want with a chance of recovering a shard of that type, so at least there are ways around that.

If you really want that “big gamba energy” though there are various rare items that cause your crafts to give you less predictable results. For example, if you have an item with one bad affix on it, you can try your luck with a Glyph of Chaos which will replace it with a random affix that could exist on that item. Rune of Refinement is effectively the equivalent of a Divine Orb from Path of Exile where it rerolls the stat values of all of your affixes allowing you to try and eke out a little bit of extra stat bonus. So there is still some random chance in the system, but if you just want some basic things on your gear that will support your build you can fairly predictably make that happen. The most important thing however is the forging potential of an item in determining whether or not you can shift it to be exactly what you were wanting. That stat ultimately dictates how many modifications you can apply to an item before it is essentially “locked” and can no longer craft on it.

One thing that I desperately wish the game had… was some sort of wardrobe system. My character looks awful right now, and there is no real way I can change that. I am going to look like a mess until I get to a point where I can effectively start wearing better-looking set gear. I am always big into cosmetic systems because if your character looks cool, it feels better to play said character. This is why games with cosmetic microtransactions will always be my weakness because it is pretty easy to get me to pony up a few bucks to feel better about how my character looks. There is a tab in the UI for appearances but it is inaccessible and I am not even sure where on the roadmap those features sit. I would assume that it would be important because cosmetics are ultimately when you can start offering things for sale in the shop and give the game a renewable line of income.

Another thing that I really want is some version of the Diablo III pet that runs around vacuuming up gold and shards. Having to walk over gold gets annoying really quickly after you’ve been used to a game with a pet, and a game without any sort of gold equivalent. The shards all get picked up at once when you click on any one of them, similar to the gems in Diablo III but I wish they went straight to the crafting bank. At any point, you can click a button in your inventory to send them there, so it just feels tedious for them not to do that by default. After a while most of what you are going to be picking up are the shards because you will likely be running a loot filter and ignoring everything that doesn’t have a stat package conducive to your base class.

Speaking of the loot filter… that is definitely something that I like greatly about the game. You can absolutely import a filter from your clipboard and there are plenty of sources for good filters on the internet. I do wish it worked a bit more like a POB and that you could just import from a pastebin URL given that most filter authors seem to store said filters there. The functionality that I like the most about this however is that once you have imported a filter, you can customize it easily in the game. This will allow you to tweak it later on when you are looking for specific items to stylize that loot when it finally does drop. For example, in Path of Exile I was looking for a Gladiator armor base and would have loved if I could simply add a custom rule for that item in the game quickly. In Last Epoch, I will absolutely be able to do that when I am specifically hunting for something that might otherwise get dropped by the filters.

Mechanically it is a deeply enjoyable game, but I think time will tell if I feel like the endgame is good. One of the reasons why I am so damned hooked on Path of Exile is that it has so much content left over from previous leagues that it allows me to narrow in on the one specific thing that I want to spend most of my time doing. I’ve not made it to anything close to the end game, so I will be interested to see what it entails. Essentially I need something that is a fun loop that feels rewarding while also being something that I can mostly turn my brain off for. That is why I stuck with Diablo III for so long because the rhythm of running Rifts and Bounties was something I found deeply soothing. The thing I struggle with in Path of Exile is that for whatever reason the game seems to relish random assed deaths, and there is never a point where you can truly just zone out and chill. Delve has been the closest to that for me, but even then it is entirely possible for me to encounter exactly the wrong combination of abilities from a mob and take an almost instant death.

Shifting back to the negative column for a bit. The story in Last Epoch is “fine” for an ARPG but is largely nonsense. You are shifting back and forth between multiple Eras of the same area and while it is cool the times you have to go back into the past to impact an event in the future, like flipping a switch in a temple before it was ruined to extend a bridge in the future. Those gameplay loops seem to be few and far between and the timescape seems to largely just be a way of presenting different-looking maps as you fight not-demons that might as well be demons as well as copious amounts of the undead. It feels like a bog standard Diablo-like ARPG with some technically and mechanically superior features that have learned lessons from all of the games that came before it. While that makes a deeply interesting game to play, it doesn’t necessarily fix the “not great story” problem that all ARPGs seem to have.

This might be a “feature” rather than a “bug” honestly because ARPG gameplay is largely about mechanical repetition and making that loop enjoyable. If you are forced to stop and deal with the narrative, it makes repeat playthroughs more cumbersome than they need to be. Essentially what I am saying is that if you are a player that primarily plays games for the narrative adventure, this game is probably going to disappoint you in the long run. If you like to play games while doing something else like watching a show, or in my case often listening to an audiobook… then this is precisely that sort of game.

I am currently playing in the Multiplayer Beta Week, and I am really interested to see how this game feels with other players. That can often make or break the overall experience of an ARPG, because while Path of Exile is a deeply interesting game… it sucks to play with friends. I’ve never found a game that feels anywhere near as good as Diablo III does with other players, and I am hoping beyond all hopes that maybe Last Epoch will fill that niche. I know what I am doing on March 9th though, because I will likely be recreating the character I am playing on the beta server. My hope is I can coax a few of my friends to also give it a shot so we can test how it feels to play with others. I like enough of the core systems that I could see really engaging with this game long-term.

Are you playing Last Epoch? Have you played Last Epoch? Are you interested in the multiplayer launch? Drop me a line below with your thoughts.