Everquest II Archives - Page 7 of 11 - Tales of the Aggronaut

Wildstar Woes

August 21, 2013 by Belghast

Good morning you happy people in digital land. I am trying to muster the “oomph” to do another days post. For whatever reason since the “flood” happened, I have not been sleeping well at all. I assume it is all the noise from the air mover fan we have had pointed at our carpet to try and dry everything out. Luckily at this point… I think the carpet is completely dry so here is hoping that turning it off tonight will render a full nights sleep.

Wildstar Woes

With all the recent strife caused by our washing machine and the subsequent damage… my morning posts have pretty much been dominated by that. However in the gaming world there was quite a little shake up… at least as far as the twitter-sphere is concerned. Monday Carbine announced the business model for Wildstar… and it was shockingly subscription based. I think most of us in the blogging circles had been expecting Wildstar to launch as a free to play or some sort of hybrid model. Instead we are getting a full subscription game with an implementation of the PLEX system from Eve.

Essentially all players will have to do one of two things to continue playing. Either they will pay a monthly subscription fee, or they will purchase and consume a C.R.E.D.D. on the open market that another player has purchased speculating that they can sell it for enough in game currency to make it worth their while. EQ2 also has a very similar system to this with the Krono, and it seems to work well enough at removing large sums of in game currency from the market. The big negative however is that mere mortals are unlikely to ever possess enough currency to buy one of these subscription tokens.

In the games I have played that have them they usually start off reasonable enough shortly after the program launches… but over time it continues to trend upwards gaining in game currency value. For example when I bought my first Krono in EQ2, they were selling for 500-600 platinum. However the last time I sold one, I was able to get almost 1000 platinum for them in a few months time. Additionally the REX token in Rift launched at around 600 platinum and now fetches roughly 1500 platinum depending on the server. Essentially it is constantly pushed out of the reach of anyone that is not an auction house baron or a habitual gold farmer.

Killing Casual Interest

Essentially in my experience there is really no way that anyone casually interested in a game like this can afford to buy the subscription tokens from the market. They are stuck with subscribing to keep their access turned on. For me my interest in Wildstar has gone from passing to pretty much dead zero. All thanks to the announcement that there will be a subscription attached to the game. Don’t get me wrong… I love subscriptions in games that I am really interested in. I will happily pay a monthly fee to support the game and gain buffet style access to all its features. But I am simply not “really” interested in Wildstar.

The problem is… in my large circle of gaming friends it seems very few players actually are. There are a bunch of us, that likely would have picked the game up were it a “buy the box” or free to play model. We would have given it a shot, seen what it was like in close up and maybe for some of us… it would have clicked. But the fact that I know there is both a box cost and a reoccurring subscription fee really makes the game something I don’t want to take a chance on. In a world where most of the games I have been playing… are free to play… that subscription fee seems like an awfully binding commitment.

Ultimately I will be sitting in the wings, waiting for the eventual switch over to free to play. That seems to be the thing to do these days… and what started off as a way to bail out a sinking game seems more and more like an actual business model. It feels as though there is the initial 6 month money grab of subscriptions… then a planned deployment of free to play to catch the players like me who were only casually interested in their net. If this is really in fact a business model, it seems like a very disingenuous one.

There are players who are supremely devoted to the subscription business model. One of my good friends Liore, has gone through a whole arc as a game she deeply cared about… namely Rift went free to play. While she has softened to the idea of the Rift free to play implementation… since arguably it is likely the most player friendly one on the market.. she still is not a huge fan of the “death of the subscription”. When a game company sets out to do a 6 month money grab then convert to free to play… they risk alienating all the players that are extremely pro-subscription.

Of Subscriptions

I guess at the end of the day… my problem is not that Wildstar has gone subscription at all. It is that Wildstar is not interesting enough to me to make me WANT to pay a subscription for it. Granted I have yet to play it at all… so maybe the proof is in the play style… but right now having only received the publically available information I am just not interested enough to commit to it. Additionally I seem to have a love/hate relationship with Science Fiction MMOs. I enjoy the hell out of them for a short period of time… but the scifi genre in general seems to lack the hooks to keep me there for long. Granted that would probably all change if a Mass Effect or Fallout MMO were ever to release. However I highly doubt either of those would happen, and quite frankly after SWTOR Bioware should farm out the “MMO” portion to someone more experienced.

Getting back on track… I don’t see anything fundamentally flawed with the subscription model. I pay a subscription to Rift, even though it is the best free to play model out there. I do it because they reward me in so many ways for doing so. Similarly I used to pay a subscription to EQ2, Lotro, DDO, etc… all of which are free to play games… because the subscription gave me something more than I could get otherwise. Ultimately this comes down to a case of me just not being that interested in Wildstar. The main issue with the subscription model is it turns off the revenue stream from players like me that might have bought the box if there were no strings attached.

Ultimately right now there are entirely too many good options for a player to play for no money outlay at all. It used to be that all you could play for free were a handful of subpar eastern games. Now you have games like The Secret World and Rift at your disposal… both of which are games I would happily pay a subscription fee for… but don’t have to. Essentially Carbine is asking players to take a gamble on their game… by buying the box and paying a monthly subscription and I feel as though a lot of players just are not willing to do that any longer. This is simply my point of view based on the “temperature” from both social media and blogs in response to the rather “shocking” announcement of Wildstar’s payment model.

Grain of Salt

Essentially you can take everything I just said today with a grain of salt. Just because I was shocked that Wildstar did not go free to play… does not necessarily mean I am opposed to the subscription model entirely. For example… if Elder Scrolls Online were to come out tomorrow and announce that they were going to be subscription only, it would be equally shocking. However I would care far less, because ESO is a game I am already 110% committed to playing at launch. From the moment it was announced I have been figuratively been like Fry begging them to “Take My Money!”. The difference is.. ESO is a title I deeply care about and have been wanting to play literally since the first time I played Morrowind.

I had played Daggerfall before, but with Morrowind I was already used to the MMO construct thanks to lots and lots of Everquest 1. All the while I was playing the game I kept thinking… man this setting would be so much more enjoyable if I could play it co-op. So I have been 100% sold on the concept of an online Elder Scrolls game since that moment. Each additional TES game.. has made me want the ability to play it with my friends even more. When I heard that Zenimax was working on an MMO, I hoped beyond all hope that it was the Elder Scrolls setting. At this point they could charge a $200 box fee, and $20 a month subscription… and I would likely still figure out some way to play it.

I feel however that this level of buy in from an MMO player is extremely rare right now. We are literally deluged with really good options that cost us next to nothing to play. The MMO climate is nothing like when WoW launched or even when Warhammer Online launched. Players are not looking to ditch their current game for something new… they want to dip their toes in the water first to make sure they like it better. Having both a box fee and a subscription fee sufficiently raises that barrier just high enough that a good number of players, myself included will not commit to the game unless we are completely sold on it. For an unproven brand, from a publisher that is notorious for selling their games short (NCSoft)… it just seems like a massive hurdle to cross.

Wrapping Up

Well I need to wrap this up and get on the road. We are taking delivery of the new washing machine today… so I am only working a half day. Essentially I need to get to work and do a full days work in 4 hours. I hope you all have a great day and I hope everything goes smoothly with the delivery and install of the new washer. Last night was a bit of a mad dash around the house to try and clear room for the folks to move it into place. I think I am as ready as I will ever be.

Open Data

August 16, 2013 by Belghast

Good morning you happy people. I am mostly conscious today but feel like I am coming down with something. While it has not fully hit me yet, last night I felt relatively horrible. It is one of those mornings where I have been staring at the blank screen for ten minutes… finally comprehending that I am supposed to write something thoughtful or interesting. It is mornings like this that I question my decisions in life… and why in the hell I ever decided to do this blog every morning thing. However I shall persevere and push on… and try and be thoughtful and or interesting or at least something other than comatose.

Armory

I am addicted to armory systems. When I am playing a game that has them… I happily check up on literally everyone I meet just to see exactly how they are doing things. I am not a terribly competitive person by nature, but I love peering into the inner workings of other players. I have learned so much from sifting through the specs of other players. Additionally when I have gotten a good drop, I used to sift through the profiles of level appropriate guild members, to see if any of them could use it as an upgrade. If they could I would send that doodad off in the mail, because I would always rather an item go to use than end up as pocket change when sold.

The funny thing is… I thought EVERYONE liked Armory systems. I made a comment yesterday about how much I wished that Rift had one… and immediately got a couple of responses from twitter talking about how much each of the players disliked them. One player took the stance that they had never seen any good come of them… and that in generally they only served as a point for players to trash talk or tear down others based on their gear. The second player said she liked to keep her spec and gear secret, that she felt like it gave her an edge in PVP.

I guess I can see both points, but they are also both foreign concepts for me. Firstly I rarely if ever pvp, and when I do it is on a lark and only to help complete some world event or guild quest. I am pretty much anti-competitive and want everyone to just get along and work together towards some glorious common goal. That said I can also see how if you do not have a protective bubble of guildies surrounding you… how you could get exposed to players that want to pick apart your gear and “call you bad”. I’ve always found armory systems to be amazing diagnostic tools that provide easy access information sharing of how exactly a player is out performing you by so much.

Open Data

I think the king of all armory systems exists in Everquest 2. The odd thing about it… it was built by a third party developer. I have a friend that works in the tools division of SOE, and I can remember all these early attempts to make a reliable and excellent mobile application. Ultimately they decided as a company that they simply did not have the manpower to adequately support an extremely detailed data visualization and armory tool on all available platforms. So instead they shifted their focus and made an amazingly intricate data service. This would allow third party developers to build the ultimate armory application for whatever platform they chose to. The end result I feel was a master stroke, and they have provided better access to data than any other company out there to date.

After the data service was released, EQ2Wire a long time supporter of the community and the best news source came along and released a truly phenomenal armory system. Essentially it provided full access to everything you would care to learn about your character. In fact in many ways it provided more information about your character than you could actually access in game. It had all sorts of nifty auxiliary functionalities like lists of all the dungeon maker items you had collected, or all your spells with the ability to create a shopping list for reagents to upgrade them. When EQ2 did a massive reworking of the AA system, they offered the ability to look at the previous version of your AA profiles so you could easily see just how exactly you had specced your character.

So when I say that I would love to have an armory system in Rift. This is the system I would most like to see it patterned off of. I would love them to take the data they already provide about the game to fan sites… but roll into it all the information about the players and serve it up as an active data service. Hell I would even devote development time towards working on an armory system if one decided to pop up and turn into a github project. Likewise I am sure lots of other people would devote their time to it as well. It would be awesome to return to being able to scour the guild roster to see who can use an item, or who has an amazingly artful spec.

One of the nice thing that EQ2 did when they rolled out their system was adding the ability for your to go off the grid of sorts. When you check that box, your character information becomes cloaked from the data feed. This would satisfy those players who want to keep their spec and gearing close to their chest, for PVP purposes. A scenario like this is the best of all worlds since it would finally allow me to integrate an armory system into our guild website. I have been working on a social roll-up page that lists various pieces of meta data from our forum profiles in one place. So I have been able to integrate WoW Armory, and TSW Chronicle… but am missing the game we are playing the most often… and as such is what prompted this whole line of discussion.

Redeemed

Several of my friends are super devoted to League of Legends. For the League E-Sports crowd, I am going to sound like a complete moron… but my friends were watching whatever event was going on last night. I pay about as much attention to e-sports as I do to traditional sports… which is absolutely none. This was a funny realization for me, because I feel exactly the same way while watching both. Zero interest in watching someone else play a game, regardless of what that game is. I guess I get bored watching other people do things that I could just be doing myself if I cared enough to do them.

All of the talk of League however made me want to pop in for a bit. I had some RP sitting in my account and Riven is probably the cheapest I have ever seen her. I have been told multiple times that this was a champion I would probably like a lot. Previously I would say my three favorite champions were WuKong, Garen and Darius… all of which have an extremely similar play styles. Essentially I seem to be unable to get into any champion that is NOT a top lane bruiser style champion.

I fired up a quick 1v1 custom game to put Riven through the motions, and man… I have to say I love her. I have never gravitated towards female avatars in any game I play… I just find an inability to really get into playing them. However I had already found at least one female champion that I really liked… and that was the super murdery Vi. I can now add Riven to that list. Firstly she is another champion limited only by her cooldowns much like Garen. I really love that style of gameplay, as I hate having to watch my mana bar… and I think in many ways that is why I love Garen so much. Additionally she has an extremely high sustain, especially once you throw a bloodthirster on her.

She is kinda like my perfect fusion of WuKong with his insanely ganky E-Q-W combo that lets him hop in and bash things then sneak away… with my love of Garen and his complete lack of resources to fiddle with. I still suck horribly at League because I am diametrically opposed to its click to move control scheme… but when I play Riven I feel like I suck a little less. Additionally her combination charge/shield attack is extremely awesome at getting out of jams… like getting too close to a turret… which I may or may not do way the hell too often. At least I can add one more champion to the arsenal of ones that I really enjoy.

Wrapping Up

Well this has rattled on long enough… and I should really be getting on my way. Here is hoping that I get to feeling better, and that I really am not coming down with something. I figure it is likely just allergies as it has been all summer. My boss is out of the office today… which normally folks would think it is a good thing. However in my case that just means I have to fill in for him when a crisis arises. I really hope no crisis arises… I could use a nice and chill day. I hope you all have an excellent one, and that it begins an amazing weekend.

Folklore Roulette

August 11, 2013 by Belghast

Good morning my loyal readers… or at least I think I have some loyal readers. Over the last week or so I have done a quite a few thematic posts spurred on by the announcement of EQ Next. Today is going to be a bit of a throwback to my “what Bel did” posts. Yesterday was a busy day but also a pretty relaxing one. We got out early and ran a bunch of errands including a haircut for me. I was getting rather shaggy… I was to the point where I could theoretically ponytail it up… just a horrible one.

Lego Maniac

When we finally got home and settled in I engaged in something I had been planning for awhile. When we set up the game loft, the intent was to also make it a place for me to build with my Legos that I have been amassing. So as a result there is a fold out table underneath the loveseat and finally yesterday I gave this concept a trial run, Over the last several months I had accumulated a large number of sets that I had yet to build, and this was only compounded by the awesome haul that my wife found last week. It had become a running joke that I collected Legos but never actually built them… so I intended to rectify that.

My grand scheme is to eventually come up with a storage system so that I can sort out the Lego bits into component types. But I have not settled on the best and most efficient means to do that. However in the meantime I would like to build every set I have at least once as it was intended. The entertainment center upstairs has been rather barren so it will serve as my showcase for built sets. The above picture shows a wide assortment of things I put together yesterday.

In the picture is a Captain America set, a Ninjago one, The Gandalf arrives set from Lord of the Rings, a couple of Star Wars sets including an Ewok Attack one… and two different Harry Potter sets. I barely scratched the surface of the unbuilt sets I have accumulated over the last little bit. Essentially anytime I find a set on sale for a price I am willing to pay I snap it up. Building anything with Legos makes me immensely happy. It is like returning to a simpler time. I can remember building by myself or with my cousins and creating grand machinations, and I guess to some extent I am capturing a small piece of that. Not sure if I will return to builder mode today or not, but I had a blast doing it yesterday.

Folklore Roulette

So as I built away with the Legos I decided to fire up Netflix on my PS3 and watch something. Hemlock Grove has been sitting in my recommendations for some time, so I figured what the heck. I like werewolves, and Werewolf: The Apocalypse was hands down my favorite of the World of Darkness games… so I would at least give it a shot. After watching nine episodes I can say that I really like the show… but I am not really sure why. It kinda has a twin peaks meets world of darkness feel to it. The biggest thing I realized immediately is just how under-billed calling it a “Werewolf” show is. There is a lot going on in thee town of Hemlock Grove.

Essentially you are presented an odd hodgepodge of Slavic folklore traditions mixed with some Reanimator style science-horror. You have psychic vampires, demons, possible alien hybrids, Romani seers, some crazy demonic wolf terrorizing the town… and of course a noble werewolf trying to reluctantly protect all of it. The demon wolf very much feels like a Black Spiral Dancer from White Wolf, at least the description we have been given of what a “Vargwolf” is.

I want to maybe finish out the series today, because seriously there is a lot of crazy shit going on in this little town… and I feel that sooner or later it is all going to come to a catastrophic end. If you have ever been a fan of the World of Darkness series of games, I would highly suggest checking it out. The acting is very good and at some times there are parts that remind me a little bit of American Horror Story season one. It of course has the requisite HBO style gratuitous tits and ass thing going on… so be warned if you have little or sensitive eyes in the room. I am not really sure when this became a requirement for “edgy” television but I wish it would work its way out.

Festival of Unity

One of the coolest things about playing Everquest 2 on Antonia Bayle has always been the massive player run events. Today is kicking one of the largest yearly events called the “Festival of Unity”. It starts this afternoon at 3pm EDT at the Qeynos Claymore in Antonica. You can check out the full information about the festival here on their homepage. Also Stargrace did a nice write-up about the festival over on MMOQuests. I am not sure yet if I will be attending it, but even if I do not I think it is an extremely cool concept. Antonia Bayle has by far the coolest community I have ever experienced on a Role Playing server, and I am always happy to get the word out when an event is going on.

Wrapping Up

Today’s post feels a little bit shorter than normal, but I am out of meaningful things to say. Hopefully you have a great rest of the weekend. My wife has gotten roped into assisting a friend with her wedding planning, so more or less I will be holding down the fort alone today. Going to have to start up laundry and the sort soon. Speaking of fortifications… thankful that so far I seem to have thwarted our escape artist ferret. She is sleeping peacefully in the playpen and has not found a way to climb out since yesterday. Here is hoping that the ramparts hold.

Evergreen Content

August 9, 2013 by Belghast

After some technical difficulties caused by the fact that my upstairs computer appeared to have come back in a half alive state after what I can only assume was a power blink caused by last nights storms… aren’t run-on sentences awesome? I am finally sitting down at the computer to write this mornings post. Additionally I am drinking the sweetest cup of coffee ever… because in my half awake state… I dumped the Splenda designated for my wife’s cup into mine. The end result is a cup of coffee with like six packets of sugar in it.

Evergreen Content

One of the things that has always frustrated me with MMO design is the fact that the higher up in level you are, essentially the fewer options you have for where to spend your in game time. What I mean is that usually games spend a good amount of time to provide alternate starter zone experiences, and then those usually funnel into shared zones for your faction before dumping you out into a ladder of zone progression towards the “end game”. Once you arrive at the end content you experience the same thing… everyone is pushed towards the same few content items.

When an expansion is released the same thing happens again but even more limiting. You are pushed out of the “old world” content and into a much smaller new world with the same very vertical progression path. Everything about the old content becomes completely disposable as it is immediately replaced by the shiny new things from the expansion areas. Not only is the new content separated by distance usually, but it gives players absolutely no incentive to ever return and revisit the older content. As a result each time an expansion is released the players are ultimately throwing more and more content in the dustbin.

A Better Way

Granted some games do a much better job at addressing this problem than others. In Rift when mentoring down you receive xp and rewards as though you were doing content at your level. The same is more or less true with Guild Wars 2 and its always mentored system of scaling the player down to the content level at all times. But in neither system do you really address the problem of lost dungeon and raid content. Ultimately you can get rewards similar to what you could earn at level, but you will never actually be able to progress your characters in the same way unless you are always doing the latest and greatest content.

With the advent of systems like StoryBricks that allow for smarter AI encounters, I keep wondering if this is now the time to have a much better system. Ideally this would work better in a system without hard level ranges, and more a “tiers of gear” approach like The Secret World has in place. What if a mob could perceive you as a greater threat based on your “tier” and ultimately fight “smarter”. This would make the old content scale to whatever level you happen to be at the time. The old encounters would be evergreen in that beating them at Tier 1 would be significantly easier than beating them at Tier 4.

Horizontal Progression

As a result you could continue to “pay out” the best tiers of gear, because all content would essentially scale up to meet the level of the players taking it on. In a mixed level group it would get far more tricky. You would have to do some sort of an average level for the encounter, but ultimately the base idea is that as you level your character you continue opening new doors to experience, rather than constantly closing permanently the doors behind you. I feel in part that this is so enticing as no amount of hard worked content provided by the designers would ever be considered “throw away” or “leveling” content again.

This of course is a massive pipe dream, and I am sure there are all measure of technically limitations to what I propose, but I have always wanted a world that scaled to me that I never outgrew. We can have this concept in single player games like Oblivion, I just think its time that we see a proper implementation in the MMO world. One added benefit is that being able to progress regardless of the content you are doing… incentivizes players to do the right thing socially… and assign their friends and guild members through that “old world” content.

Socially Beneficial

Being one of those players that regularly helps out the “young-ins”, it can be frustrating knowing that you will not actually progress your character while doing this thing that was “socially” the right thing to do. Games like Rift or EQ2 provide alternate advancement paths that make it much more enjoyable, since you know you are ultimately still making your character better in the process. However… would it not be that much cooler if you could provide a system that allowed for both the low tier player and the high tier player to receive the best type of rewards they could get… together in the same group?

It is always awesome watching a new player get their first really awesome item, because you grouped up with them to help them through a challenge. Would it not be equally exciting for them to watch you getting the same because you chose to help them? I have had a mantra for awhile… “anything that prevents me from playing with my friends is bad” and this is exactly the opposite of that. It makes sure that playing with my friends will always benefit me in the same ways it benefits them. Sure the content might be ultimately more difficult when you have 3 tier 1 players and 2 tier 4 and the end difficulty level is something in the middle… but as group you will be able to work through the challenges.

The Problem

As I sit here to write this post, it feels like it is coming out super esoteric… and as a result I am hoping to place it more firmly on the ground. In my office on the wall are lots and lots of maps, and many of them are from MMOs. There is one above my monitor that came from the Kunark expansion to the original Everquest for example. As I look at the glorious landmasses that are all these games… I am bit sad thinking that so many of those zones I will never have a valid reason to return to. They will never again be truly important to me, the same way they were when I was first leveling through them.

I would just like to see a design scheme that makes it always valid for us to return to the content we know and love and have conquered and find completely new challenges. This goes double for dungeon and raid content. Wouldn’t it be cool if you could zone into Blackwing Lair in WoW with a group of friends… and get an encounter tailored to fit YOUR level… and not a “roflstomp” soloable mess? The worst part about the “e-sport-ification” of raid content, is that we are constantly having to throw away fun experiences for whatever the newest tier happens to be. Sure you can always return to the older stuff, but it has been trivialized by the progression you have made since then.

I would just like to see something that fixes this. So that a zone stays epic regardless of when you tackle it, and that there will always be new and more exciting challenges and rewards to be found there. With the construct of scalable AI and encounters… I think that maybe finally this concept is ready to be explored. I have no desire to stay in the starter zone, grind boars, and become amazing like they did in the South Park spoof… but it would be awesome to be able to go back to that low level content and have a reason to be there.

Wrapping Up

Well I need to wrap up and get on the road. I feel as though I have laid out a huge rambling mess. Hopefully this will make sense to someone. It has been a concept bouncing around in my head for awhile and all the talk of Storybricks and EQ Next and Scaling Mob intelligence has dislodged it enough that I wanted to try and put it down into words. I feel like I am fairly grossly unsuccessful at doing so. I hope you all have a great day, and I hope you can grasp the crux of what I was trying to say.