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Bribing Good Behavior

October 30, 2014 by Belghast

Better Community

Yesterday I posted this picture and said that the person dancing with Sagacyte and I was a friend of his. Turns out that apparently this was not the case. The way she waved and immediately started dancing with us, made me think that she must have known him. So yeah… complete and total stranger came over and started interacting and now she is another person on my friends list. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked since this sort of thing happens all the time. There is a community spirit that infuses Final Fantasy XIV, and I am still not entirely used to just how prevalent it is. There are lots of quests that involve you walking into an area and a bunch of mobs spawn on top of you. The mobs that actually belong to you are marked but you can help out with any of them. It is a rare occasion that someone will move on after their mobs are dead and not help you kill yours. There was this one tank the other night that I swear “tanked” five sets of these mobs as new people walked into the spawning area.

This sort of thing is absolutely commonplace now, but the strange thing is… it wasn’t. What is strange about Final Fantasy XIV is that my friends and I played this game seriously at launch for roughly three months. Then we wandered off to do other things, and upon returning were shocked and amazed at how much the community had improved. At launch it felt like every other MMO, with folks doing the same kind of selfish actions that are so common place in other games. Running a random dungeon, likely meant that you would have one person complaining that you were pulling to slow, and another person complaining that the dps wasn’t somehow good enough… even though there are no meters for that. Basically the community had the same rampant asshatery that we’ve all experienced in “modern mmos”. Upon returning however we found that this negative element was almost completely gone. Sure you will encounter an abusive player every so often, but the community as a whole seems to have done a drastic turn around.

Bribing Good Behavior

One thing that we noticed quickly that had been added to the game since we last played was the player commendation system. What makes the system interesting is that at the end of every duty, each player gets a single commendation that they can award to another player from that group. Now normally when a game has a system like this, you can queue exclusively with guild members or friends and cheat the system. However in this case you cannot reward commendations to your guildies, but have to instead use it on a stranger. The other half of this equation is that you are rewarded both your giving commendations, and greatly rewarded for receiving them. Each week there is a challenge log entry for handing out commendations that gives the player a bit of experience and some gil. As far as the receiving side they have set up a system of increasing rewards for 10, 50, 100, 300 and 500 player commendations. The final reward is the golden colored Magitech armor that you see in the above screenshot… something that pretty much everyone I know universally wants.

What has happened as a result is that players are actively trying to win commendations while in dungeon runs. As a whole they are far easier to work with, and more willing to stop and explain mechanics if you simply speak up and let them know you are new to a fight. In fact I have seen entire raid groups come to a grinding halt just to explain the mechanics of a fight to a new player. Often times another player will mentor the newer player through what they actually need to pay attention to on a given fight. The only thing I have seen much frustration really is when a group wipes because a player didn’t understand the mechanics… and didn’t speak up about it at the beginning of the run. This leads players to be more willing to speak up about things that confuse them, or things they are having issues with… which then get solved as a group. Admittedly there is some content that is the equivalent of WoW’s LFR… but even then inside each individual team there is usually some camaraderie as the run goes on.

Rewarding Communication

I have long been one of those individuals who have stated that the addition of the dungeon finder to World of Warcraft made the game a significantly worse place. Sure it made getting groups easier, but it changed the way we ran dungeons permanently. The “push a button, get a group” nature of the tool had a ton of unforeseen consequences, the worst of which is it dehumanized your interaction with other players. Instead of people that you had to communicate with in order to get a group in the first place… they became roles that enabled you to get your loot Piñata at the end and nothing more. The first thing to go with the dungeon finder was discussion in dungeons other than screaming at other players for not living up to some set of standards. Folks stopped talking while running dungeons, and most players just kept their head down and tried to make it through the dungeon all the while trying not to be called in the carpet for being “bad”. It was during this era that I stopped running with strangers, because every time the experience was just so damned maddening.

With Final Fantasy, I restarted the game a few weeks ahead of the bulk of my friends… meaning my only option was to do random dungeons or either do no dungeons at all. The first thing I noticed when I set foot into a dungeon was that players greeted each other, and once that happened the communication started flowing again. Players seemed more willing to talk about what was going on with fights, what they needed help with… and even things completely unrelated to the current dungeon run. Granted all of this might be some elaborate act in an attempt to earn player commendations… and being the friendliest in the group usually earns you at least one… but whatever the cause it is a drastic improvement over the standard MMO environment. I think we have a case of “fake it until you make it” going on here, where players might start out faking a friendly attitude, but over time of doing this over and over… something changes inside you. I find myself not getting upset at the mistakes of other players, and not dwelling on what went wrong… but focusing more on what needs to happen for things to go right.

Positive Leadership

I am not sure if I can account all of the positive changes simply to the player commendation system. I feel like the more aggressive players that make up the early MMO rush have moved on from the game, leaving behind only players that are really dedicated to the Final Fantasy franchise for one reason or another. Additionally the way that the developers of this game interact with the fans is just completely different. I’ve talked about this before, especially in relation to the way the game developers at Blizzcon interact with their fans. It often times feels like they are living out some rockstar fantasy up on stage, and there is always a tinge of condescension when they answer fans. Watching Fan Festival on the other hand… was like watching one big fan talking to a bunch of other big fans. One of my friends commented that Yoshi-P seems to treat us more like investors in his vision, than customers. Another friend chimed in and said that it was almost like he was this super benevolent guild leader. In any case the difference in interaction shows, and trickles down to the player base as well.

So I think all of these little things add up to an atmosphere that rewards the player for being helpful and showing community spirit. So much in this game cannot be accomplished without other players, and the constant fiddling and tweaking with systems always seems to air on the side of supporting collaborative play rather than competition for resources. Granted Final Fantasy XI and XIV 1.0 had really interesting communities, and to some extent the XIV 2.0 and beyond community is standing on their shoulders. Even in the midst of all the rogue zergy nature going on with the release of a new class… players are still far more polite about everything than they were at launch. At this point I don’t care if they essentially have bribed us into being nice passive team players, the end result adds up to a very positive player experience. It had been a really long time since I had felt a sense of pride in a game community, and I am damned proud to be a Final Fantasy XIV player and even prouder to be a member of the ever amazing Cactuar server community. For years Azeroth was my home base as I wandered out to explore other games, but I think at this point that new title belongs to Eorzea. There is so much awesome stuff coming down the pipe, and I cannot wait to experience it all.

#FFXIV #FinalFantasy

Heavensward

October 20, 2014 by Belghast

Fan Festival Was Amazing

Watch live video from finalfantasyxiv on TwitchThere have been several community events that I have watched over the years for the various games I have been into. I’ve watched SOE Live, and Blizzcon… so I guess I was expecting the Fan Festival to feel pretty much the same, but in the end it felt considerably different. With Blizzcon there is always the feeling that the folks from Blizzard are imposed upon to be up in front of the fans, especially during the question and answer sessions. SOE Live on the other hand feels more like a gathering of loyal fans to a long running franchise, but even it felt different. When one of the members of the FFXIV team was on stage, they were practically glowing with excitement at being there. If you think about it, I guess it makes sense… because this is a game that was so bad during the 1.0 launch that they simply could not charge money for it. These team members have through a monumental effort turned the listing ship around and not only stopped it from sinking but made it the second most successful subscription MMO on the market.

Watch live video from finalfantasyxiv on TwitchI think it goes deeper than that however. Each time a developer of any stripe was on stage, they were almost vibrating with excitement about talking to the fans. Naoki Yoshida aka “Yoshi P” the producer of Final Fantasy XIV and the man mostly credited for the games resurrection… was only actually scheduled to be on stage a few times. However he ended up sitting in on damned near every panel because you could just tell that he was having a blast at the festival. The man however that needs the lions share of the credit for pulling off this event as smoothly as it ran is Michael Christopher “Koji” Fox. Not only was he a constant bundle of enthusiasm over all matters lore, but he spent the majority of the conference live translating for every dev panel. This is a pretty monumental feat, and his localization and lore panel is one that everyone should see. Right now the twitch stream are these two 10 hour blocks of video… but I am hoping that these get broken up into individual panels.

Since the release of the game my friends and I have talked about just how awesome the localization and quest writing is for this game, and come to find out… that is almost entirely the work of Koji Fox. The Japanese version of FFXIV apparently lacks almost all of the flavor that the English version of the game has. During the Lore panel they gave a few examples of a Japanese quest that was extremely utilitarian contrasted against one of ours that is all about amazingly bad puns. I feel like the game would not have been nearly as successful were it not for all of this diligent work during the localization process. Apparently it has been noticed, and the Japanese version is going to be much more closely related to style of the English client from this point on. It almost sounded like things would even start in the English client and get translated to Japanese, but I might have misunderstood that bit. In any case Koji for me at least is the reason why this game is so damned sticky.

Heavensward

It is safe to say that I have not been this excited about an expansion in any game since the months leading up to the Burning Crusade. There is just so much that I am looking forward to in Heavensward, not the least of which is the unlocking of Ishgard. I am in the minority among my friends but I love Coerthas, and not because I particularly like the elves that inhabit it. I love snowy climates, and Coerthas is like the king of all snowy climates because it has Dragons and the Dragoons. I am looking forward to having Ishgard be the fourth city state and am hoping that it has a grand company associated with it. I am also hoping that the political assholery that is the Coerthas quest chains… does not represent all of Ishgard as a whole. The other thing that I am completely pumped about is that we don’t have to wait over a year to see this expansion. It is currently slotted for Spring of 2015 which could mean as early as March, but potentially as late as May. This is the way that you announce an expansion… a few months before release so that your fans have enough time to get excited about it, but not so much time that it feels like it is extremely far away.

I think the thing that excites me the most about Heavensward is the potential for new classes. It has already been stated that there will be several new classes and jobs to learn with the expansion, and over the course of the Fan Festival there were a few leaks. During one of the panels Gondai the battle team developer held up a Batman shirt, verifying one of the long held rumors that we would be seeing the Dark Knight. During another panel it was leaked that Samurai would also be included. Between those two I am pretty much in heaven. Both are two of my favorite jobs from the Final Fantasy series, and you can damned well bet I will level both of them… and depending on the particulars will likely switch to Dark Knight as my primary job from that point onwards. I have loved that job since Final Fantasy IV and always found it so damned disappointing when Cecil changes to being a Paladin. My theory is that Dark Knight will be the DPS half of Warrior, and likely use Two Handed Swords… but who knows.

2.4 and Beyond

The most exciting bits for me however had nothing to do with the expansion. We have been waiting anxiously for the 2.4 patch to launch, and during the Live Letter managed to get a definitive date. Next weekend will be the London Fan Festival, and a lot of the job related information is being held back to reveal during that event. However the Tuesday immediately following London, the 28th we are getting the patch that introduces Rogue and Ninja, the Final Coil of bahamut and a bunch of Quality of life tweaks. What I am really hoping is that since Second Coil of Bahamut is getting uncapped in the amount of loot you can get from it each week… that they might be doing the same for Syrcus Tower. If nothing else the Soldiery gear should be considerably easier to get since once again they are introducing a brand new Tomestone category “Of Poetics”, which means they will be converting existing tomestones and lowering the price of items.

What is awesome is that Heavensward is not terribly far away, but they have a whole bunch of stuff that will be going into the game in the meantime. They confirmed that the Golden Saucer area will be going in during 2.5 and with it Chocobo Racing, various mini-games and the thing I am absolutely amped about… Triple Triad. This was a card game that existed as part of the Final Fantasy VIII game where you collected various cards throughout the world and dueled other Triple Triad players. The game play was extremely simple to pick up, but hard to master. I am so ready for this to be in game and expect me to duel a lot while hanging in our housing zone.

Community Spirit

There is a massive rundown on Reddit of all of the things mentioned during the Live Letter during the show yesterday. I highly suggest you check it out if you are wanting more information. Needless to say it is a super exciting time to be playing Final Fantasy XIV. If I was not already enamored with the community I would have been after the Fan Festival. The community spirit was constantly apparent when they dealt with players. There were a number of events set up for players who were attending the show to compete in. Among these was a preview of the as yet to be released Odin Primal fight. Teams of players had 15 minutes to defeat the encounter, which pretty much meant at maximum they had two attempts. The end result was not only bragging rights, but also an “I Beat Odin” shirt only available during the convention. What sprung up around it was an atmosphere of folks cheering on other teams as they tried to get their own shirts and the sharing of tips and pointers. As you talked to players that were defeated by the encounter, all they wanted to do was get back in line and figure out how to tweak their strategy for the next try.

Watching the crowds and watching folks on twitter talking about the experience… it was like the entire group was this big family. I was so happy to see that this same spirit that we seem to have on the Cactuar server, apparently exists on all other servers as well. I feel like each player that has made a home on their server, feels the same way about their own server as being truly “awesome”. The most interesting thing was listening to the various social channels in game during the event. It felt like most of the community was tuned into the festival and sharing tidbits of information they just saw. There was so much cheering over various things, not the least of which was the announcement that the Atma drop rates would be more than doubled starting in 2.4 and the Animus books themselves would be considerably cheaper after the Tomestone conversion. Folks are amped about what is coming during the next few months, and I feel like there won’t be a single dull moment until we arrive at the launch of Heavensward in the spring. If you could not already tell… I am extremely excited.

#FFXIV #Heavensward

Familiarity in Proximity

September 23, 2014 by Belghast

Mega Servers Continued

A few days ago I made a post on about launch issues and game servers, and the problems and solutions that come from various server scenarios. In my post I presented some discussion about the various styles of servers and the weaknesses that each have. Mega Servers are an awesome technology but there are problems with it, namely that it reduces the casual proximity of players. In my post Doone made a comment, and while I normally would have simply posted it as a reply… I am thinking that maybe I need more space to go into my thoughts. For sake of not having to make you jump through a bunch of hoops I am going to repose his comment here.

Im not sure why anyone thinks Megaservers make it difficult to build community? Do you mean that it’s too many people to build intimate connections? Because if thats the case, then we’re just talking about social tools, not megaserver tech. Players just need a reason to interact and that doesnt change because of megaservers.

AA’s current situation is embarrassing. Theres not any good excuses for their current situation. This isn’t the first MMO launch, not even the first MMO with land and other features that complicate server flexibility. Theyre simply unprepared for deliberate reasons. There’s just no way they didn’t know what they needed for a smooth launch.

It’s worse that people who shelled out hundreds of dollars to support development are reporting not getting that 4 day advantage they were promised. That’s a serious charge.

Should AA have gone Megaserver? I don’t see how this wasn’t mandatory given the kind of features it has. You need a vast server community that’s STABLE. And you can’t have that when your system is as inflexible as the one they’ve adopted. I think they’re sinking their own ship right now. — Doone

While I agree with the bulk of what he said, I thought I should maybe clarify my points about mega servers. At first glance they look like a magic bullet for the problem. At the very least I thought they were a magic bullet for launch day woes, however they have their own problems that do not always show up early on.

Informal Community

There is a certain kind of community that happens spontaneously by just being around the same players each and every day. For example the above picture is that of one of the late game hubs in Final Fantasy XIV Revenants Toll in Mor Dhona. Upon arriving at the Aetheryte crystal I am immediately seeing some familiar places that tend to frequent it. You can see a name marked in orange as someone I have already friended. However more than that I recognize if not the names, but the guild tags of many of the players surrounding me. There is a sense of familiarity in seeing the same players day in and out, and when one of them is in need you are more likely to step in and help out. This is the way friendships in MMOs used to be formed through shared activity, not just shared guild tag.

In Final Fantasy XIV it has instanced housing wards, where you purchase a house and in theory become neighbors with lots of other players. Our house is across the street from a Market Board which is the way that you access the auction house economy. Over the course of weeks of being in close proximity with several other players, we have struck up a bit of a friendship. One of which is the name in orange in the above Mor Dhona photo. There is lots of spontaneous interaction that happens just by being around other players and gaining that sense of common goals. This picture is when we just spontaneously put on our brand new Dragon Warrior inspired Blue Slime King hats and started dancing together. But the interaction has spread much further than that, and I’ve helped these players out in the world beyond our neighborhood, as well as had my heart warm each time I happened to see one of them out in the wild.

A Server of Strangers

I’ve played many games so far that have some form of a blended server environment. World of Warcraft for the last several years has blended the leveling zones for the entire battlegroup to make each server feel more populated. The most recent poster child for Mega Servers however was the Elder Scrolls Online. Before launch they made several promises about creating a situation that grouped like minded players together into virtual servers, while still all being part of a much larger farm. While we had one of the smoothest launches since they could easily scale up the hardware temporarily, and reduce it later as needed… there are a lot of problems that came from not being with a fixed set of players. Admittedly some of the issues are due to the poor decisions made with the user interface.

In the above image, can you easily tell where my group mates are? Can you tell the names of players surrounding me? In both cases the answer is a huge nope, and this poor design choice of obfuscating information about other players only served to make the mega server concept feel that more alienating. Everyone that was not you became another nameless faceless person taking up room and competing for your resources. While this is the extreme, I’ve had the same thing happen in World of Warcraft when I encountered players from other servers. It was like that they were somehow less important to me, since they didn’t share the same server lineage. I knew that I would likely never see them again, so why even bother trying to be friendly?

Familiarity in Proximity

In a traditional server structure there is familiarity in your actions. You end up noticing players that do the same things as you do. It might be farming a specific location on the map because you like the look of it, or crafting at a specific machine. In hub based MMOs like World of Warcraft, you spend inordinate amounts of time milling around whatever your faction end game city tends to be. I would spend hours running circles around Dalaran while dealing with raid and guild business over text. While doing this I used to favor certain areas of the town and vendors, and I started taking note of who else seemed to like milling around these same places. Over time I would start up conversations and get used to seeing the same people. If they were gone, I would wonder what they were up to and hope that they were okay. Over the years there are so many contacts that I have made… that ultimately turned into later guild members that I made only because I noticed they were in the same place as me and decided to strike up a conversation.

The problem with the mega server is that it destroys this kind of familiarity through proximity. I feel like Elder Scrolls Online was the absolute worst case of this, because not only did it rob you of being around the same people all the time… it also took their names and guild tags from you. One of the important aspects of a guild is it becomes far easier to recognize than individual player names. Over time you start to associate a certain kind of behavior with a certain guild tag, and then when you see one of those people leading an event you have an informed decision as to whether or not this is going to be a good thing. As a guild leader, my people were amazing and the absolute best advertising I could ever have created. I would get random messages from players who ended up running a dungeon with one of my people, and they wanted to take time to compliment me as guild leader on how nice they were. It is this kind of interaction with others that I hope to preserve with whatever ends up being the next server model.

The Happy Medium

As I said in my first post, I think there is a happy medium somewhere. I think the ultimate version of mega servers, allows you to checkmark certain characteristics that you favor and then creates essentially a virtual server populated with the same players every time. Similarly I think there are ways for games to maybe more easily identify players that you have interacted with in the past. The biggest problem with Elder Scrolls Online is that every player felt anonymous. Even my own guild members, I struggled to locate them in a mob. This should never be the case, you should always be able to pick your friends and guild members out of the biggest sea of names and faces. Similarly I think it is important to be able to identify players, because it allows you to form those connections in your mind that if I saw this player in my crafting hub and they are out here doing the same action… I am invested in maybe going that next step and inviting them to a group. I want us to keep the best aspects of the traditional server structure, and find new ways to scale them as we go forward.

I want to leave with an excellent post from Sig of Crucible Gaming called “How WoW Ruined MMO Gaming”. While the title is hyperbole, there are some really good thoughts contained within, and it seems like Sig mourns the interconnectivity of the previous era of gaming. Once upon a time we needed players, and as such generally treated them better. As games have removed the need for having other players we have eroded that base of civility. While in many cases I think that World of Warcraft has poisoned the well in doing away with some things that were absolutely normal previously, I don’t think we are in an unredeemable state. Final Fantasy XIV has proven to me that there can exist a game that is both social and modern at the same time… and that has a thriving and cohesive community. I think the ultimate trick will be finding ways to take what they have done there and scale it to other games.

Atma Weapon Get

September 8, 2014 by Belghast

Naps Are Evil

This morning I am completely dragging and seem to be wallowing in a near zombie like state. The answer to my predicament is rather simple. I indulged in taking a nap with my wife yesterday, and as a result I paid a heavy price. As glorious as naps feel, I for whatever reason cannot take them. I mean I can fall asleep for a nap just fine, but the act of napping dooms me to being unable to sleep later. I am envious of my wife, who can wake up from one nap and immediately fall asleep for another one. My body however seems to hate sleep, and if I partake of the forbidden fruit it means I will be wired at midnight trying desperately to get my body to calm the hell down and sleep.

Last night was of course one of these nights. So this morning I am in a stupor that I fear no coffee will raise me from. I would love to say that the nap was worth it, because it really did feel amazing at the time. However the ultimate results or nap taking seem to always leave me in this condition, and it seems to be a less I have to relearn on a regular basis. So I present to you… Naps are Evil, or at the very least they are unadvisable for someone with screwed up sleep patterns like myself. I realize that I could drug myself into a sleep like state but that generally causes more issues than it is worth. So once again I will just deal with it this morning and hopefully get a good nights sleep tonight.

Atma Weapon Get

This weekend for me was ruled by an overriding goal, to acquire all twelve Atmas and be able to upgrade my axe to its next evolution. There are some caveats there but I will get into them later. Over the course of the past week I have done enough FATEs to gather up around 80,000 grand company seals. If you figure that on average you get around 100 seals per FATE, that means I completed somewhere in the vicinity of 800 FATEs between collecting all twelve Atmas. I am guessing that would Math out about right considering I am roughly 2000 FATEs into the 3000 FATE achievement. So yeah… my guild thought I was crazy for embarking upon this, but I pushed through it regardless. I am by far not the first to get it as Warenwolf and Cylladora managed to get theirs significantly before I did. I feel like they simply had better luck than I did in a few of the zones as I know for certain I ground Southern Thanalan for 3 evenings.

In any case it feels good to put this step of the process behind me for the time being. The funny thing is… I am not absolutely opposed to doing the grind again for another job. I figure at some point I will do it for my Dragoon, however I am going to need to put a lot of pacing between the two grinds. More than likely I am going to shift focus to working on my White Mage for awhile to do something “different” feeling. I tend to go on these missions every now and then, where I am all consumed with getting this one thing done. The games that get me to stick around are the ones that can create large numbers of these traps to ensnare me with in order to keep feeding me new goals that I actually want to accomplish. So far it seems like upon returning to Final Fantasy XIV there are more than enough shiny baubles in the distance to keep me focused.

Beginning the Animus Grind

While I finished the most random portion of the level 100 weapon, I still have to power it up. The Atma Bravura while ilevel 100, it really is no different than your existing Zenith weapon other than having a changed appearance. In the case of the Warrior the blade is coated with blood. From this point out I have a slower and more deliberate grind. The first step is to get 1500 tomestones of mythology which I will then exchange for one of 9 books needed to power up my weapon. Each book is in itself a quest, that involves me to complete specific dungeons, fates or leves in order to complete that step. If I am understanding correctly, each time I complete a book it will imbue my weapon with some stat improvements until finally after completely all nine it will be a proper level 100 weapon.

Some of my guild members are taking a completely different route to get to their ilevel 100 weapon, and in truth it is probably the easier route. I like this one however because it reminds me of how it felt to do an epic weapon quest in the original Everquest, and to some extent in Everquest II. They are long epic quests and at the end when you finally get your hands on the next step in the sequence, it feels well fought and earned in a way that simply saving up tokens could never feel. I am sure I am romanticizing the process, but completely relic weapon quests in Final Fantasy XIV has this same feel for me, so I can see myself doing even the most insane ones just to be able to say I did it.

There is a club of sorts among the folks that have completed the Atma step that I have noticed. They sit around and tell tales of how long it took to get this piece or that piece. Sure it was an arduous grind, but I feel happy to be admitted into that club and be able to tell the tales of the process to get my own bloody axe. Similarly I am sure I will enjoy retelling the tales of the various books that I had to complete to get my animus step as well. The truth of it all is, that these little goals on the horizon are what will keep me hooked on a game for more than just the moment. This long range missions are what keep me grounded and focused. So I might be insane for grinding them out when there are potentially easier alternatives… but I am enjoying the journey.

#FFXIV #Atma #Animus