AggroChat #537 – Breaking E-Commerce

Featuring: Ammosart, Ashgar, Belghast, Kodra, Tamrielo, and Thalen

Hey Folks! This week, we are down a Grace, and Bel botches the intro… but we keep moving forward. We start off the show with a brief discussion about Silksong effectively breaking every digital game distribution platform when it released this week. Kodra and Tam talk about puzzler Is This Seat Taken, and Bel reprises the discussion about Path of Exile II Third Edict and how it is actually rather good if you are playing a well-balanced class.  From there, Tam talks about Aero GPX and Sword of the Sea and how they give F-Zero and SSX Tricky vibes. Bel talks about playing Destiny Rising and how it is quite possibly a better Destiny game than anything we have gotten in many years.  We discuss Capes, and then dive into the meaty topic of the week and talk about some of our early interactions with Silksong.

Topics Discussed:

  • Silksong Breaking All Storefronts
  • Is This Seat Taken
  • Path of Exile II is Actually Good
  • Aero GPX
  • Sword of the Sea
  • Destiny Rising
  • Capes
  • Silksong Early Thoughts

Steam Go Boom

Good Morning Folks. Happy Day After Silksong launched, if you celebrate it. So for those who were confused as to why pretty much every digital storefront died around 9 am CDT… Silksong the sequel to Hollow Knight was released and it was exceptionally anticipated by many. I enjoyed what I played of the first game and as such I had planned on picking up this release if for no reason to support its particular brand of indie development. Also they could have charged way the hell more for the game but are instead charging $20 for the game… $32 if you want to be fancy and also get the soundtrack. Essentially all digital storefronts cratered as the game released. I intermittently tried to complete my purchase and did not succeed until 12:30… and even then it errored out a few times before it finally went through. While I did not see it with my own eyes, I heard from friends that the Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation stores all were struggling as well under the weight of users. Why they did not have this up for pre-order ahead of time… is beyond me.

I think it is safe to assume that they sold several million copies when you factor in all of the platforms it is available on. We have zero data from Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, or GOG… but at least on Steam it held the top seller slot for most of yesterday. This is pretty freaking impressive for a $20 title, because the Steam sales charts are based on dollar amount of sales not volume of purchases which is why the Steam Deck is habitually listed near the top, and this morning Borderlands 4 reclaimed that spot with its $70 base version and $120 super deluxe version. Additionally it hit a peak concurrency of over a half million players. There are a couple of dozen folks on my Steams friends list who have purchased the game and quite a few spent most of yesterday playing it. Basically this is an instant hit, and will probably be the game of the year for many people.

I played a tiny bit yesterday just because I could, but I did not make it terribly far. I failed the first boss I encountered and will have to dedicate some time to get used to the diagonal slash instead of the down slash. I have to admit, this is not my favorite style of Metroidvania. I greatly prefer the games that are way more about exploration and gear acquisition, than the ones that are purely about mechanical aptitude. This is why I greatly preferred Bloodstained to Hollow Knight, but most of my friends are the exact opposite. My old man reflexes struggle anymore with some of the movement in these games. I love the artwork and the vibes though, so at some point I want to finish Hollow Knight and then play my way through Silksong. I think both are exceptionally cool, but also are not necessarily the thing I was dying to play like so many were. I did however want to join the zeitgeist at least partially, so threw them my $20. I also thought it was an interesting cultural moment because I cannot remember a time when a single game brought multiple storefronts to their knees.

I spent most of last night playing Path of Exile II, but I have also been noodling around with a mobile game. I am not sure when Destiny Rising officially launched, but I was briefly an alpha tester for it some time ago. Playing it on the phone was perfect cromulet, but also not really my jam. With the full release of the game comes a lightweight emulator option that offers some pretty good mouse and keyboard PC performance, as well as the option to play it with a controller if that is more of your jam. If you have not been around this blog for very long… you would potentially not know just how much of these pages I devoted to both Destiny and Destiny 2 until Bungie pissed me off with all of their content vaulting. When I saw that some of the more diehard Destiny streamers were picking up this game, I had to give it another shot, and honestly I am pretty surprised by just how good it plays.

There are significant differences in the way that this game works. Namely from a story perspective this is essentially an alternate universe version of the tried and true tale of the Traveler. More importantly however this is a hero shooter, and that means instead of playing a character that you create for yourself.. you are playing the character of wolf, a newly resurrected character where you can choose the gender and appearance for similar to many other Gacha main characters. The key difference here however is that this is a fully fleshed out character and seems exceptionally well rounded and not something you will immediately toss aside the first time you succumb to the lure of chasing a 5 star banner. Every character has a loadout with a specific set of super abilities, and a weapon pairing. This means that there are going to be characters that you might like the weapons for but hate the super and vice versa. The combo of hunter double jump, auto rifle, grenade launcher, and this big damned anime robot sword slash attack seem like a solid combo for a base character.

Because it is a mobile gacha game there are of course reward tracks and banners, but I have not made it far enough into the game to unlock the latter. In fact it has not really asked me for any money so far. I’ve essentially only been through the first few missions, but it seems like there is a challenge track that will unlock one of two premium characters. There is a training room that lets you test all of the characters and I am pretty much going to choose Xuan Wei because he is essentially what we would refer to as a Striker Titan. It is heavily Chinese influenced as are pretty much all Gacha games, and it also has chase Waifu characters that everyone seems to want. There is a Hot Goth girl with a Scythe attack that everyone seems to be talking about chasing in the online discourse.

What is impressive however is just how good the performance is for what is essentially an emulated android game. It feels like Destiny. They have nailed the gunplay and you can also pet the cats, which is the most important bit. Actually the whole cat thing seems to be a mini game in that each one you encounter wants some sort of food. I have no clue what you get for collecting the food and correctly delivering them to the right cats, but I am sure I will evetually do this thing. If you loved Destiny at any point and faded away from the mainline game for various reasons, I highly suggest you check out this particular brand of nonsense. It is pretty solid. I need to get used to the phone client though so I can add this to my late night daily chores gaming while waiting on falling to sleep. Right now I play a minimal amount of Pokemon, and AFK Journey… and could at least pick up the daily login rewards for this game if I did not play any of it on the computer.

Anyways. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend and I will see you again on Sunday when I post the new AggroChat show.

Self Exodus

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Here comes some random commentary.  I have for the most part been in support of the Epic Games store and snagging some of their exclusives…  like for example Hades and Ashen.  Those are games for which pre-orders had not started on any platform and announcing that they would only be available on this somewhat new storefront was perfectly reasonable.  I was largely okay with The Division 2 but I felt it was a little shady to shift gears a few months before the launch of the game.  I had not pre-ordered, and if I had been planning on doing so… I would have probably just ordered through the UPlay store to cut out the middle man.  However what just happened with Metro Exodus is in the “shady as fuck” territory, given that the game is roughly two weeks from launch and had been in pre-orders since at least E3.  That is way too late in the game to be massively shifting gears like that and THQ Nordic the sub company should have known that they would be screwing things up for THQ Nordic the parent company.

Still I am largely cool with Epic Games store as a vehicle for grabbing games.  Sure it feels a little spartan, but it is still a way better store front and client than Origin…  a point that has been reminded of late given how much I have had to fiddle with that client thanks to Anthem.  The problem I have is with the practice of taking pre-sales way the hell ahead of the games release, because frankly the term pre-order is a lie when it comes to digital software.  You are not plunking down $5 to reserve your copy of a game…  you are handing over your credit card information and often times being charged up front for the purchase.  The thing is… whenever that process starts those vendors should be locked in stone and unchanging.  If you didn’t want to support Steam six months ago…  then you shouldn’t have allowed sales of your product to begin.

In truth I don’t so much fault Epic for making offers, but the company for taking that offer in Bad Faith.  I get a regular stream of offers from people wanting me to place links on this site to whatever the hell it is that they are pushing…  often times some sort of a casino.  I don’t take the quick money because I feel like it would be violating the trust my readers have in me.  I don’t necessarily have a dog in this fight however because while I have been looking forward to Metro Exodus… it was never really a day one title for me and instead something I would play considerably after release.  However for those who were harmed by this action…  I get the outrage.  The biggest part I am confused by however is how they have stated that Steam Pre-Orders would be fulfilled and the game would be updated through that platform…  but the game itself would no longer be available there.  That just feels really odd and awful.

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As far as gaming last night… I got the Blue Mage to 40 through lots of grinding that was relatively boring and not worth talking about.  Then I swapped over and played some Destiny 2 where I completed a bunch of bounties… one of which being the weekly for Eververse.  I lucked out and managed to pull the Last Word ornament…  which will sit there waiting until I complete that quest chain.  I did manage to push through the step where you collect a bazillion hive cores or whatever it was we were collecting.  I also managed to make a little progress on the Malfeasance where I believe I am on the final step involving killing Guardians and getting invasion kills in Gambit.  I had fun… but man movement felt weird after getting used to Anthem.

Speaking of which…  who all will I be seeing in the weekend test happening Friday-Sunday?  I’m BelghastStern over on Origin so hit me up with a friend invite.

Always a Sale

Psychology of Clearance

For as long as I can remember, I have always been a bargain hunter.  Few things feel better than finding that rare item on sale for as much as 50 to 75% off of its original price.  I know without a doubt that I got this instinct from my Mother, because when I was growing up I can remember my Grandmother joking that she thought I would end up being a “Blue Light Special”.  For those who are either not old enough, or not from the right region…  K-Mart used to have a literal blue light attached to a cart that they would drive around the store, and for thirty minutes a specific item in the store would be at a significant discount.  I remember my mother would always go to check out whatever these items were, sometimes whether or not we actually needed them.  So to say that allure of finding a deal is ingrained in my very fiber is a very true statement.  Thankfully my wife is much the same… so she gets it…  and in truth we simply don’t like spending more money than we need to on anything.  She however is always willing to carry it further than I am…  and there comes a point where I am sick of dealing with something and am willing to spend any amount of money to be “done” with it.

One of our favorite activities during the parts of the year when stores are changing out seasonal merchandise is to go clearance hunting.  We live in Wal-mart country, and are roughly two hours away from the central office.  This means at any time there are around thirty or forty Wal-mart stores within easy driving distance.  The trick of Wal-mart is the odd quirk that every store is essentially self governed to a certain bit, and this extends to what they choose to put on clearance.  So one store might have an item for full price, but a store ten minutes away might have it for 75% off depending on a whole bunch of factors.  My Lego habit has been fed by the fact that I can pretty regularly find whatever sets I want on deep discount… so that $200 set becomes $60…  or the $30 set becomes $10.  So the question always becomes… is this item good enough of a deal, and there have been times I have passed something up only to kick myself later.  For example when driving home from Pax South last year, I found Star Wars Lego AT-TE for $40, but ended up passing because it felt like we had already spent a silly amount of money that weekend.  I’ve kicked myself since because that was originally like a $150 set, and really freaking awesome.

The Steam Sale

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So these instincts of bargain hunting and regret of the deals I have missed, carried with me into the digital world.  As a result the Steam sale has been one of those forces of nature that I never can seem to resist.  When I see that $60 game that I have always wanted to play… selling for only $5… it is really hard not to go ahead and pick it up and tuck it away for the day when I really get the desire to play it.  The problem being… I like quite literally everyone else I know is doing this, and as a result we have hundreds of games as a steam backlog that we “really need to play”.  Compound this with the fact that new games are constantly being released, it comes into a situation where there are just games that we own that we are quite likely never going to play.  Over the last year I have tried really hard to resist the lure of the Steam Sale, but usually I end up picking up at least one “deal” that looks too good to pass up.  Even though on some level the number of games that I have that I have not even installed…  is a massive stress point for me.

This past weekend for Thanksgiving there was predictably yet another Steam sale going on, with its own rock bottom prices on games.  I hit the site a few times to see what was being sold, and oddly enough had zero desire to purchase anything.  At this point we have done a bunch of renovations on the house, so there is definitely the desire to “spend no more money” going on, but I don’t think it was that.  There were also plenty of games that looked interesting to me, so I don’t think it was simply the fact of not having anything I wanted.  I think maybe it is just the fact that I have finally come to the realization that there is no limited quantity here, that I am racing to snap up before they sell out.  In a physical store… they have a limited number of items on the shelf, and when those items are gone… especially when clearance is concerned… they are not getting any more.  When you are selling a digital key to a digital game… there is absolutely no rarity going on there.  They can sell keys a virtually unlimited number of times… and be able to keep ratcheting that price downwards towards infinity, each time catching a new batch of purchasers.  A physical copy of Pokemon or Final Fantasy ends up gaining value, but a digital copy only serves to get cheaper.

Always on Sale

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I think another thing that is finally sinking in… is that I can purchase a game at any point and don’t need to have it waiting in the wings for me to play.  I have insanely fast internet right now, in fact I ran a test this morning for the purpose of this article and you can see it over on the right hand side there.  There is not a game that is available on steam that I cannot literally download in less than thirty minutes.  So it is not like I need to preload things to really be able to have fun… I can wait for the whim to strike me, purchase it in any of the many always on market places and be playing the game less than a half an hour later.  This is vastly different from the chunk of my life where I literally had to drive an hour away to be able to find any of the games I wanted to play.  There is a part of me that still attributed a value to having something on hand, rather than having to go out and acquire it…. since I still remember having to go from store to store looking for one of the last remaining copies of a new game.  Now I purposefully shun physical copies of things for the simplicity of knowing I can pre-order moments before the release of a game and still get the full benefit.

The other side effect is that there is quite literally always a sale going on somewhere.  Between Steam, Origin, GOG, Greenman Gaming, Amazon, Humble Bundle… and countless other minor retailers there is quite literally always a sale going on for any game I could ever want to play.  The only time this is not necessarily the case is for any game I might want to play on the Playstation 4.  There I am very much still at the whim of a single game store, since once again I am not a huge fan of buying physical copies of games for the console.  I greatly prefer the fact that thanks to my 2 Terabyte harddrive upgrade in it, I can have most everything I might want to play “on tap” and waiting on me to boot.  All of these things honestly make the individual digital games worth less to me than they used to… and this is maybe going to be a problem that the industry will have to deal with.  There was a time when I was willing to “snap up” a game for $20, and that degraded to $15… and then to $10… and now quite literally a AAA title has to be $5 or less for it to trigger that “buy now” instinct.  I feel like I am simply becoming desensitized to the effect of the “Big Sale!” and now it seems simply easier to pay the price something is currently selling for rather than trying to stock pile it for later.  This entire topic came up, because this recent steam sale seems to be the one that a good chunk of my friends also passed up.  Has the magic of the Steam sale finally lost its magnetism?  I’d be curious to hear some of your thoughts about this, because for me at least over the course of this last year….  the only “deals” that I have really snapped up are those coming from Humble Bundle or the PSN store.